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British Nationalism, Sorry, Unionism

British Unionist or Neo-Fascist
British unionist and nationalist supporters holding anti-independence signs and giving Nazi salutes in Glasgow city-centre, Scotland
British unionist and nationalist supporters holding Union Jacks and giving Nazi salutes in Glasgow city-centre, Scotland
British unionist and nationalist supporters holding anti-independence signs and giving Nazi salutes in Glasgow city-centre, Scotland
British unionist and nationalist supporters rallying in Glasgow city-centre, Scotland
British unionist and nationalist supporters rallying in Glasgow city-centre, Scotland
British unionist and nationalist supporters rallying in Glasgow city-centre, Scotland

 

28 comments on “British Nationalism, Sorry, Unionism

  1. Obviously it shouldn’t be a slight on Better Together or in your terminology ‘Project Fear’, heck even they wanted nothing to do with the Orange Order. I wouldn’t lump all scottish unionists with these cants..

    • john cronin

      Their forefathers were out fighting Nazism when Sean Russell et al were collaborating with it.

      • Ever heard of the cliveden set and Edward VIII?

      • Seeing as you are a self appointed expert on all matters, could you explain one thing for me that just doesn’t add up? Why did nazi germany allow 300,000 plus British troops to make good their escape across the English Channel from Dunkirk? Surely this would have been manna from heaven for an army that was allegedly intent on invading Britain? The opportunity to weaken the enemy was on a plate for hitler and the gang. And yet they passed it up. Doesn’t make sense and in fact it suggests hitler hadn’t the heart to inflict such casualties on Britain? For such an evil man he was willing to show mercy to his alleged mortal enemy. Strange. Nach bhfuil se?
        Judging by the nazi salutes by the British nationalists in Glasgow,Belfast etc recently perhaps hitler was closer to the British more than we are led to believe? Two cheeks of the same ass perhaps? Two cheeks of the same ideology definitely.

        • That’s for John Cronin btw.

        • john cronin

          THe reason the Germans allowed the BEF to get away at Dunkirk was that the German forces were totally exhausted and at the end of some very long and potentially vulnerable supply lines. They had taken very heavy casualties, just as the British and French had. Goering persuaded Hitler that the Luftwaffe alone could finish the job, and the army high command gratefully accepted this as a way to rest their men. There was no conspiracy to keep Britan’s army whole: had the German Army been given the chance, they would have captured the whole 300,000, and the war would have been over there and then. They were just so astounded by their own success that they held up the advance to recuperate.

            • john cronin

              Incidentally, it was the Irish Guards who provided the last line of defence at Dunkirk. Some of my relatives among em: I think they realised that there were rather bigger fish to fry in 1940: if the Wehrmacht had marched through London, they’d have marched through Dublin six months later.

              • You mean the way the Churchill and some of his staff wanted to march into Dublin in the months after Dunkirk and was only persuaded from not doing so because of the vociferous opposition of his diplomats and generals worried about being tied down in an Irish war, being seen as aggressors in the eyes of the world and fearing American repercussions?

                What would the Irish Guardsmen have done if they had been sent to fight on the streets of Dublin, Cork and Limerick, as well as Belfast and Derry? I suspect most would have simply followed their orders.

                Reality is a cold shower.

              • john cronin

                but they weren’t, were they?

              • Nope and the Wehrmacht never marched on Dublin so we never had to fight them. Or re-fight the British.

          • And for 4 years after Dunkirk the British mostly stayed out of ww2 whilst the Germans and Russians went toe to toe all over Eastern Europe.
            In fact the Russians believed that the allies betrayed them because it took them so long to mount a mainland Europe offensive. They only got their act together whence it appeared that the red army was pushing the Germans back.
            For any officer to pass up an opportunity to seriously damage the enemy due to fatigue etc is indeed fanciful. These German troops fought in worse conditions than what this scenario offered. The British were sitting ducks and were ripe for dispatch. A blind man could see that. And just like a football team finds a second breath when it’s winning, I would suspect the German army would’ve done the same giving the chance. After all they were winning at the same time also. They were pretty ruthless at any other time apparently.

            By the way, Seamus, I couldn’t help but notice the name of the individual running that site you had a link to…..Rothschild. Seriously?

            • As far as I know Mike Rothschild is a fairly well regarded journalist with a sceptical interest in conspiracy theories. One I share, to be honest. I though it was a good summation of the competing theories.

              • ‘Well regarded journalist’.? Well although I am just a peasant boy I havnt heard of him. But like all opinions they are open to conjecture. The only theory I have is that most governments and the deep state that direct it do not tell the truth. They are dragged kicking and screaming to utter a true word(plenty of evidence all around). So when I hear sanitised versions of British wars I instinctively smell a rat.
                Maybe Rothschild could do a few pieces on what went on in the north in the last 40 years? He might even argue some of your posts were conspiracy theories too.

              • Ah now, no need for that, WT. I was just pointing out that the journo was fairly well known in regard to the area of myth-debunking (or -proving).

                I certainly wouldn’t be one for sanitised versions of British wars but I’m sceptical on the theory that Hitler allowed the British expeditionary forces to escape mainland Europe in the hope of instigating peace with Britain. There is no doubt that Hitler was an anglophile and he certainly did toy with the idea that the two great imperial powers, Britain and Nazi Germany, would carve up the world into complimentary spheres of influence. He had plenty of reasons to believe that it was possible, not least through the sympathetic hearing he received in some British ruling class circles. Unfortunately for him he didn’t bank on Churchill seeing the Third Reich not as a potential ally but rather a rival (nor the resource-sapping resistance of Stalin’s USSR to his invasion).

                Britain didn’t go to war with Germany primarily to save civilization from Nazism. The main goal was to save Britain, the British Empire and Britain’s interests at home and abroad from a greater threat than they had thought possible. Just as it was in Ireland’s self-interest to remain neutral it was in Britain’s self-interest to become a belligerent.

                Yes, you are quite right on your last point. Much of the historical stuff I write about in relation to the Long War and other subjects was dismissed as conspiracy theories and anti-British propaganda by the British government and media until the last decade (with their servile followers in the Dublin establishment following suit). Even in 2011 when I started An Sionnach Fionn much of what I wrote about was criticised by others who could not come to terms with it. Yet one by one everything I detailed and catalogued as been accepted into mainstream journalism, politics and academia.

                So yes, one should keep an open mind.

            • john cronin

              “For any officer to pass up an opportunity to seriously damage the enemy due to fatigue etc is indeed fanciful. These German troops fought in worse conditions than what this scenario offered. The British were sitting ducks and were ripe for dispatch.”

              So, the allies were just lucky to find Adolf in a giving kinda mood that day?

              • Lucky? No, but but as I have alluded to before, perhaps Adolf was closer/ fonder to the English than we are led to believed. Ie Britain was never the main enemy. The main enemy was Russia. For both Britain and Germany.
                Just on another point, why would the British royal family change their German name to a more English sounding name? Your name is your name. When somebody changes their name it suggests they want to hide something from their past. Or to deceive people in the future? Perhaps the royals wanted to hide how close they were to the pesky Germans in case it dawned on the duped ordinary,uneducated teenager across Britain, that they were so good at convincing to fight for them and die for them?

      • Excluding Mosley et al 😉

    • Absolutely not and certainly not the vast majority of the 55%. However they do illustrate one point Britain’s media refuses to accept: British unionism equals British nationalism. It is simply another word for it, no more, no less.

  2. You don’t have to, Scottish Unionists themselves lumped themselves with these cants….apparently they don’t feel enough shame to care that it is so

  3. I just can’t understand the mentality of these people.
    Does anyone know what justification these people use for making the nazi salute?
    How does it add up for them?
    Especially when they are the same people who fly the israel flag in Belfast?
    It’s completely insane.

  4. Keep it up lads, you’re doing a great service discrediting the Union.

    George Square has seen it all btw (aka Wot no Tanks?)

  5. ar an sliabh

    Just showing the power of collaboration in an occupied territory. Not too different in another place still occupied. These bastards made my aunt cry – f- them! We’ll revisit this in ten years. It is not over.

  6. junius45

    Rommel & the German army recovered very quickly from fatigue & over- extension when they attacked the Highland Division trapped at St Valery shortly after Dunkirk. There was no pause to allow an evacuation and no attempt by Churchill to evacuate them in any case. The long walk to German prison camps was the result and those who couldn’t keep up? well!

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